How to use a movie config

WatchMiltan

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There is a reason we dont have !ft command. We want everyone to have same chances on our servers, so this kind of modification of the game can be regarded as hacking, because you have an advantage over other players.

Please kindly remove your texture modification and 3dmap :)
 

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like this way in the video i understand it. But if !ft is enabled for everyone its no advantage because everyone can choose it like he want
You're right :D But not sure everyone knows how to use it, maybe we can add this sometime in the future...we can't check if someone has texture hack, so if we enable it for everyone it could be equal chances for everyone.

But for now I'd say it is and stays banned / is considered as cheating.
 

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You're right :D But not sure everyone knows how to use it

So he have to ask for it or we have to add a chat msg like "use !ft to change your texture" or smth like that

But for now I'd say it is and stays banned / is considered as cheating.

In order of the definition its not a texture hack...

This is a texture hack:

But i know what you want to tell me :D Its a big advantage but not called "hack" n my opinion. But im against like that in the video too. It should be allowed for all or for nobody.
 
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@WatchMiltan He is showing us how to use a movie cfg, mainly intended for movie making.
He is injecting an external console because a console doesn't exist in tmw3 by default. If that's cheating is a thing you can discuss about. The console.dll modificates the game in a way that it allows you to enter commands / dvars. Actually a game console just allows you to enter commands / dvars which exists in the game engine by default. In cod4 a console exists by default, so you didn't have to inject an external console function in order to execute a movie cfg with its cmd's to change the colours and stuff (of course only in demos, blocked on servers).
Why a console doesn't exist in teknogods by default, I don't know.

Furthermore he is using custom dvars which are probably blocked by the game to be used on servers, are they @h0st_ ?
For sure you can use it in the theater mode while watching demos. For example it's useful for movie making because you can have better looking colours and textures in order to record a clip.
If you can't use these custom dvars on servers because they get blocked, then he can't have an advantage over other players. But for tmw3 I am not sure if they can be used on servers. I guess not. However, if it's possible on servers, it wouldn't be allowed to use them there because it's not there by default.

If it's used for movie making purposes, in demos, then I see there no problem because you don't have advantage over other players.
 
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@WatchMiltan He is showing us how to use a movie cfg, mainly intended for movie making.
He is injecting an external console because a console doesn't exist in tmw3 by default. If that's cheating is a thing you can discuss about. The console.dll modificates the game in a way that it allows you to enter commands / dvars. Actually a game console just allows you to enter commands / dvars which exists in the game engine by default. In cod4 a console exists by default, so you didn't have to inject an external console function in order to execute a movie cfg with its cmd's to change the colours and stuff (of course only in demos, blocked on servers).
Why a console doesn't exist in teknogods by default, I don't know.

Furthermore he is using custom dvars which are probably blocked by the game to be used on servers, are they @h0st_ ?
For sure you can use it in the theater mode while watching demos. For example it's useful for movie making because you can have better looking colours and textures in order to record a clip.
If you can't use these custom dvars on servers because they get blocked, then he can't have an advantage over other players. But for tmw3 I am not sure if they can be used on servers. I guess not. However, if it's possible on servers, it wouldn't be allowed to use them there because it's not there by default.

If it's used for movie making purposes, in demos, then I see there no problem because you don't have advantage over other players.
Sure, but what about the 3dmap? It was there already by default for him.
 

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.!ft i don't consider texture hack. But a texture cleaner. If its allowed for everyone i dont consider cheating.
But if it is for individual my opinion is the same as teknogods peeps. Anything that is edited by client in mw3 folder can be considered as cheating.


Try to go to some EX server (that content by default texture clean) and then go to a kS server. Idk about u guys. But when i do it applys that texture clean to next sever i join. If i go to dome idk like the scenery, but on lockdon turn things (enemys century and stuff) easier to notice. And i can take advantage cz i see better then others.
Yep. Without having done any edits in my game. I can take advantage somehow cz this glitch.
I did this a couple of times to test it and see what was happening. I stop doing it cz when im do it i feel like im in advantage. So = cheater.
@neRo! Did u know about this?
 

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.!ft i don't consider texture hack. But a texture cleaner. If its allowed for everyone i dont consider cheating.
But if it is for individual my opinion is the same as teknogods peeps. Anything that is edited by client in mw3 folder can be considered as cheating.


Try to go to some EX server (that content by default texture clean) and then go to a kS server. Idk about u guys. But when i do it applys that texture clean to next sever i join. If i go to dome idk like the scenery, but on lockdon turn things (enemys century and stuff) easier to notice. And i can take advantage cz i see better then others.
Yep. Without having done any edits in my game. I can take advantage somehow cz this glitch.
I did this a couple of times to test it and see what was happening. I stop doing it cz when im do it i feel like im in advantage. So = cheater.
@neRo! Did u know about this?
i know about this because i was in the EX server always in the past (as Staff rank 80).
But im banned xD But idc im unbanned in 1-2 months. So i can join there always with a different name.
 

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Sure, but what about the 3dmap? It was there already by default for him.
Yea this has nothing to do with the steps he does in the video.
If he edited his minimap, then it wasn't there by default and I would agree to you that it's some kind of cheating, if you have an advantage over other players. I didn't see those 3d mimimaps yet..

.!ft i don't consider texture hack. But a texture cleaner. If its allowed for everyone i dont consider cheating.
But if it is for individual my opinion is the same as teknogods peeps. Anything that is edited by client in mw3 folder can be considered as cheating.


Try to go to some EX server (that content by default texture clean) and then go to a kS server. Idk about u guys. But when i do it applys that texture clean to next sever i join. If i go to dome idk like the scenery, but on lockdon turn things (enemys century and stuff) easier to notice. And i can take advantage cz i see better then others.
Yep. Without having done any edits in my game. I can take advantage somehow cz this glitch.
I did this a couple of times to test it and see what was happening. I stop doing it cz when im do it i feel like im in advantage. So = cheater.
@neRo! Did u know about this?
No, I didn't know that because I don't really play on other servers lol.
I like filmtweaks and the promod-look because the map looks much better and more clear imo (promod <3). If you use this on a server than everyone can use this "advantage", so I see there is no problem.

If you played on a server with filmtweaks like on EX, then it gets written to the game and if you change the server the changes stay because the dvars which are written won't be disabled automatically unless you restart game.
Yea, I understand your point that's it a bit unfair when someone could use it by joining those servers before, and for others the map looks default.
 
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Yea this has nothing to do with the steps he does in the video.
If he edited his minimap, then it wasn't there by default and I would agree to you that it's some kind of cheating, if you have an advantage over other players. I didn't see those 3d mimimaps yet..


No, I didn't know that because I don't really play on other servers lol.
I like filmtweaks and the promod-look because the map looks much better and more clear imo (promod <3). If you use this on a server than everyone can use this "advantage", so I see there is no problem.

If you played on a server with filmtweaks like on EX, then it gets written to the game and if you change the server the changes stay because the dvars which are written won't be disabled automatically unless you restart game.
Yea, I understand your point that's it a bit unfair when someone could use it by joining those servers before, and for others the map looks default.
Maybe we should add it too to create fairnes :D