Do you think its the end of Piracy?

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Hary

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As many you might or might not be aware, games are now mostly protected with the DENUVO ANTI-TAMPER which makes it hard for the "Crackers" to crack it. As of now Denuvo has the better hand against pirates as most of the AAA games have gone uncracked. To mention a few,
  1. Rise of the Tomb Raider
  2. FIFA 16
  3. Just Cause 3
  4. Far cry Primal
and the list keeps going. EA are using it even on "Indie games". As it stays now, my opinion is that video game piracy would end pretty much sooner or later as most companies are gonna adopt it.
For more info on Denvo click --->HERE<---
 

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"Do you think its the end of Piracy?"
i hope not i cant afford to buy every game so i rely on the cracked version of many games.
I agree on your terms :D Also i only buy games that are "really worth" it like skyrim and fallout series BUT the games these days are total crap and unoptimised for PC ports and are just money grabbers. But now it looks like the pirates are up in a thunderstorm due to denuvo :D
 

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Oh NO :( Why? I need to download every game on my PC , that my PC can handle! :| :(
As of last year, PC gaming has changed a lot. You need nearly high end hardware to run the latest games(due to poor optimisation) ofcourse the game graphics have stepped up really high. and all the AAA games are gonna be soon roped in by Denuvo. :(
 

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I don't care, you will understand when you are older.
 
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I don't care, you will understand when you are older.
What do you mean? are you saying that discussing about the end of video game piracy is something that can be understood only when someone is "Old" ? I hope you didn't misunderstand the point of the topic here cuase' for me it sure looks like you have.
 

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What do you mean? are you saying that discussing about the end of video game piracy is something that can be understood only when someone is "Old" ? I hope you didn't misunderstand the point of the topic here cuase' for me it sure looks like you have.
No, when you are older you will not care, you will not have much time for games and your free time you will use for other stuff
 

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No, when you are older you will not care, you will not have much time for games and your free time you will use for other stuff
yeah i agree :D But even if i'm old and not have time about games, i'm just making a discussion on what's happening in the world :p :D For example "old" soccer/football players talk about the game by commentating or being a commentator but they can't play football/soccer BUT they discuss it :D
Alright lets stay On-Topic pls :p
 

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yeah i agree :D But even if i'm old and not have time about games, i'm just making a discussion on what's happening in the world :p :D For example "old" soccer/football players talk about the game by commentating or being a commentator but they can't play football/soccer BUT they discuss it :D
Alright lets stay On-Topic pls :p
I understand. You are welcome!
 
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Well I heard even Microsoft is working on it to prevent cracking softwares, like that a software gets disabled when it got detected as a cracked version. Because companies/producers exert pressure on Microsoft to prevent that softwares gets cracked, same as film and music industries.
 

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Well I heard even Microsoft is working on it to prevent cracking softwares, like that a software gets disabled when it got detected as a cracked version.
Yep that's true. I also heard that windows 10 uninstalls a pirated softwares which was implemented through an update and not sure how far the windows 10 thing is true but Microsoft working on preventing cracked softwares is a fact :)
 

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It is impossible to make a game or software uncrackable. There will always be a flaw albeit hard and tedious to figure out. When FIFA 2015 released EA just launched their new Denuvo "uncrackable" DRM which proved true for almost a year after the game's release but eventually it was cracked by the 3DM team who are now the forerunners in cracking Denuvo technologies. Same goes for Dragon Age: Inquisition, Lords of the Fallen, Battlefield: Hardline and many more apparently "impervious" titles.

Windows 10 does have systems in place which permanently removes illegal data from your computer however there have been many developers who have modified the operating system in a way which renders all forms of monitoring on Microsoft's behalf useless.

So to summarize my point - as anti-piracy technologies improve so too does the technologies of the cracker teams around the world who are hellbent on proving they are able to crack anything. Geniuses on both corners working towards the exact opposite goals, neither can best each other.
 

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It is impossible to make a game or software uncrackable. There will always be a flaw albeit hard and tedious to figure out. When FIFA 2015 released EA just launched their new Denuvo "uncrackable" DRM which proved true for almost a year after the game's release but eventually it was cracked by the 3DM team who are now the forerunners in cracking Denuvo technologies. Same goes for Dragon Age: Inquisition, Lords of the Fallen, Battlefield: Hardline and many more apparently "impervious" titles.

Windows 10 does have systems in place which permanently removes illegal data from your computer however there have been many developers who have modified the operating system in a way which renders all forms of monitoring on Microsoft's behalf useless.

So to summarize my point - as anti-piracy technologies improve so too does the technologies of the cracker teams around the world who are hellbent on proving they are able to crack anything. Geniuses on both corners working towards the exact opposite goals, neither can best each other.
A great valid point you made there. The anti-tamper solutions delays the time it takes to crack a piece of software. And that "time" it takes might be really long or short. But as of now the upper hand is with denuvo.
 

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The world of piracy have leaped across much harder systems in place against them in the past.
Initially PS2 games were considered impossible to pirate, cracker teams developed a physical hardware modification to allow PS2 owners to play backups burned on to your normal everyday disc. Even after the chip was installed into your PS2 the next issue was that you couldn't just burn the game without having the proper software, then Alcohol 120% released a version which bypassed the DRM Sony added to the original games that allowed the system to detect whether the game is an original or a backup.

As for the PC industry, initially there was a pain in the ass of a DRM called SecuROM much like Denuvo now SecuROM founders Microsoft boasted how impervious the DRM was going to be but eventually a static flaw was discovered that allowed every game from the release of SecuROM to be cracked.

Let's look to Xbox 360, one the most popular gaming consoles of all time. Crackers initially bypassed Xbox's security systems by installing hardware that allowed for backup copies of games to be read later on the technology bettered allowing you to do the same thing but with software modifications, simple firmware alterations. This isn't even the biggest feat of the crackers, they discovered Microsoft intelligently overburned Xbox 360 games right at the edge of the disc where security data was being kept, meaning if you were to put an average dual-layer DVD blank into an average writer it would not be able to burn 350MB of security data to the disc thus the invention of the terms XGD2 and XGD3. WE won't get into that but basically crackers discovered a way around this by using a writer known as the LiteOn IHAS which had a very unique feature capable of overburning discs which allowed Xbox owners to have a backup that the Xbox read just like an original disc.

This proves that the cracking teams have overcome much worse in the past, eventually they will conquer Denuvo as well.
 

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The world of piracy have leaped across much harder systems in place against them in the past.
Initially PS2 games were considered impossible to pirate, cracker teams developed a physical hardware modification to allow PS2 owners to play backups burned on to your normal everyday disc. Even after the chip was installed into your PS2 the next issue was that you couldn't just burn the game without having the proper software, then Alcohol 120% released a version which bypassed the DRM Sony added to the original games that allowed the system to detect whether the game is an original or a backup.

As for the PC industry, initially there was a pain in the ass of a DRM called SecuROM much like Denuvo now SecuROM founders Microsoft boasted how impervious the DRM was going to be but eventually a static flaw was discovered that allowed every game from the release of SecuROM to be cracked.

Let's look to Xbox 360, one the most popular gaming consoles of all time. Crackers initially bypassed Xbox's security systems by installing hardware that allowed for backup copies of games to be read later on the technology bettered allowing you to do the same thing but with software modifications, simple firmware alterations. This isn't even the biggest feat of the crackers, they discovered Microsoft intelligently overburned Xbox 360 games right at the edge of the disc where security data was being kept, meaning if you were to put an average dual-layer DVD blank into an average writer it would not be able to burn 350MB of security data to the disc thus the invention of the terms XGD2 and XGD3. WE won't get into that but basically crackers discovered a way around this by using a writer known as the LiteOn IHAS which had a very unique feature capable of overburning discs which allowed Xbox owners to have a backup that the Xbox read just like an original disc.

This proves that the cracking teams have overcome much worse in the past, eventually they will conquer Denuvo as well.
Well said.Its just a matter of time that takes for the crackers to overcome the "denuvo" obstacle :)
 

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bro you are just a kid, sometimes reality hits hard and you might just take a break.
but i wish you luck with your "gaming carrer"
Chill out and eat an icecream :D
Don't tell me about life guys, I know how it is , with all those competitions in colleges, in schools and interviews etc! I know , You guys ever heard a word "DETERMINATION"? Its in me!